• reads systemic impacts
    • ex. racism, dp
  • impact should be a discrete solvable harm
  • capital punishment, immigration detention etc
    • most people say its a productof big things
    • racism, xenophobia
  • only plan solves harm
  • popular with legal plans
  • what
    • adopt and ethical fw
      • ontological
      • current > future lives
      • not liable for other peoples actions
      • probability risk of existention is infinity
        • parallysis
        • can't solve small problems
      • somettimes have ev saying neg inflated probability
    • framing
      • soft left affs go for this
      • only probability
      • ethics
        • how we should act
        • as long as what we do is ethical
      • impact defence
      • risk assesment
      • diversify thumper arguments